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I would play league at brandon on wednesday if I could make it. I get off work at 530 and work over by the mall so no way I can make it. That is the reason I do not play leagues.
My schedule at work is 12:30-9:00pm. On days I do get off early I have an 11m old daughter to be with. I can't speak for those who consistently make it out to league or are a part of the "group", but that's exactly what it is. This "league" is a mere group of friends - with little to zero increase in players because, I think, there's nothing out there, other than this site, showing them otherwise. A forum doesn't promote, it simply offers valuable information and allows you to communicate with people who already know about the league. If you want more players somebody needs to get out there and find them - they shouldn't have to find you. Posters, flyers, cards, newspaper, attend city counsel meetings, simply go out and promote! The league is what you make it, and simply showing up on Wednesdays is not enough. I wanted this league to be fucking huge and fun and awesome but when I showed up on my first day earlier this year it was none of that. I got thrown into a random division with no questions asked, wondering what to do. One guy said what's up. The league has no structure, at all. I hope nobody takes this personally but you asked, so I answered.
Nothing wrong with having a casual league - but with the amount of players in Sioux Falls the potential is much greater there. Tuthill should be the only course played, with Big Sioux Rec on the side for tournaments and just another fun course. I've lived in Brandon my entire life and can tell you that it's not the place increase the number of players; although Pioneer is a nest for potential newbies. League should stay at Tuthill Park - no traveling. I couldn't believe league was traveling to Baltic and other towns. There is nothing confusing about Wednesday night League at Tuthill Park at 6:00pm. You don't need three days of league, no wonder the numbers are low some days and not on other days. The numbers could be much higher with only one day of league which would therefore help in coming together as one. Think about it - is there any particularly large league around here? No. But there could be. If help is needed - shit i'll help. All it would take is a couple years of hard work and promoting players and sooner or later the hard work would pay off into doubling the number of players. They are out there. They need reasons to join. You run into people playing casual rounds but choose not to join League. But that's exactly what League is.
If a few guys are serious about making this happen, there needs to be a group that sits down and plans it all out. You can't just wing it. Certain people need to do certain things in order for it to work.
You guys are making it sound like it was difficult to know when and where the leagues were going to be?
Big Sioux was unplayable due to flooding so the guys did the best they could to inform people, using this site, where it was going to be held at. They always did that days in advance. You can't help it if a course floods and I thought they did a good job staying on top of it.
The league times have been the same for 2+ years now. singles Wednesday at 5:30, doubles on Sunday at 5:30, and, until recently, Thursday doubles at 5:30. So, there shouldn't be any confusion about when leagues are. look at a calendar, if its Wednesday, there's league. If its Sunday, there's league. very simple.
You guys keep throwing out tuthill as the solution. Its not. I tried holding a doubles league on Thursday nights for 2 years. Each year attendance would start strong (15ish people) and then completely fall apart (less than 4 people). It got to the point this year that nobody came for a month, and I called it quits (why waste my time). Still, you'd see many familiar faces out at tut playing disc during the league nights, but not playing league <--This is what we are trying to fix. We are looking for ways to make league more appealing. People just don't seem to want to get on board. Its not because of location or scheduling. People are just not interested.
Putting up fliers at tuthill is out of the question. I did it for a month straight last summer only to find them taken down after a few days, finally I noticed that it was actually the park workers that were the ones taking the fliers down. Apparently they don't want fliers everywhere (I can't blame them).
League information is posted on the bulletin board up top, but nobody seems to even notice that thing exists.
Basically, if you've attended league once or twice, but decided you didn't like it, tell us why! Hopefully its not just because the people that currently go are friends. Get your friends to also go and we'll all be friends eventually.
That's all I got.
League should be at one course. Tuthill. There should be no confusion what-so-ever as to where it is. You guys did a great job on this site letting people know, but it shouldn't even be a question. Tuthill isn't the "solution". It's simply where league needs to be if you ever want it to grow to its potential. So you tried for a couple years and it didn't work. So what, we can try again. This is where the players are at. Rarely do Am's from Sioux Falls go to Big Sioux. Apparently I'm not the only one who believes in this.
Big Sioux is always at risk of flooding, or at least being muddy. Some would love to believe it's beyond Tuthill but it's simply not. We need to take advantage of the better course. People will have their own opinion on that statement so keep it to yourself, that's mine.
You wonder why people show & go. If you asked me why I would rather play a casual round rather than attend league it's because there's no reason to play league. It's the same group of people, who simply show up and play a round of disc golf. No structure what so ever, such as: "Am's, you can start where ever you want, just get out of my sight, we could give 2 shits about the Am's." is basically how I interpreted that. It should never be that way. New players are more than likely going to be Am's.
This "league" is not a what it see's itself as. You might as well just be that group of friends always parked at the bottom of Tuthill. Not everybody is a disc golf fanatic. If you want to grow it's going to start with Am players and they aren't going to come to you. Stop being a bad ass, try being nice and promote. If fliers didn't work at Tuthill then don't put them there. Hand them out, it doesn't matter where you are. Give them cool reasons to join; if its a free disc, then you can take one of mine for all I care, as long as that persons going to tell their friends. Create a T-shirt design with the website address on the back and people will see that. This is going to take volunteers. More than a couple.
I'd have 50 people rounded up from Pioneer by now if I only had a couple reasons for them to join.
People don't want to join league simply to meet up and play a round of disc golf. They want to be a part of something. More players means more ideas and volunteers. More players comes from promoting. That's where the focus should be.
We'll wait for you on Wednesday. Just shoot me a text (605) 370-9429 so I know you're coming on Wednesday.